Subordination Tip: obtaining copies of Notes the easy way

It is not unusual for underwriters to require a copy of the promissory Note in conjunction with the loan approval process.   If you have a Gem of a client who happens to be organized and keeps handy copies of their loan documents then you will be free sailing.    Otherwise, you’ll need to obtain a copy of the Note or Line of Credit Agreement from the subordinating lender.

Regardless of who the subordinating lender is for your transaction, most lenders require written authorization from the borrower for any third party to obtain a copy of the Note.

As a function of our work, we automatically provide our customers with an authorization form for the borrowers to sign authorizing the release of this or any other document required in connection with producing the Subordination.

-Nationwide Subordinations

Don’t put yourself in a pickle after you have received your Subordination by realizing that underwriting needs a copy of the Note and without it you cannot close your transaction.  Be pro-active and  ask your underwriter right away if they will need it.    Many times the requirement for a copy of the Note shows on the lender Commitment Letter so take the time to review it (we do as part of our pre-submittal audit).

Chase Subordination turn times 6 weeks+

There is no other way to put it other than the turn times for subordinations at JP Morgan Chase Bank is absurdly long.   Lynlee was in contact with Chase regarding our pipeline and they are working on subordinations placed the 2nd week of November!

I called yesterday, Dec. 29th, and confirmed this.  However, they did indicate that they were working to move them along quicker.    We will see.

Happy New Year everyone.   We appreciate your business and are working to continue providing the very best in serving your subordination needs.

- Nationwide Subordination Staff

Subordination planning during Holiday season

Subordination planning is critical particularly when interest rates have ticked up a bit over the last two weeks.   Here are some tips:

  • Submit your subordination request as early as possible in the lending process and do not lock your interest rates for anywhere near less than 30 days.   Short lock periods are a recipe for unhappy clients.
  • November had Veterans Day which was observed by Banks being closed and next week is Thanksgiving.  This impacted turn times and produced more volume build-up for the lenders processing subordinations.   Thanksgiving and the Christmas season will potentially create more headaches unless volume is decreased leading up to Christmas and New Years.
  • Common errors are found in the following:
    • Title Reports
      • recording dates missing
      • lender typos
      • Un-released/reconveyed loans
      • Proposed insured missing
    • Commitment Letter
      • Terms not complete (loan amount, rate and term)
      • Use of DU findings in lieu of traditional commitment is routinely rejected by lenders
    • 1003 & 1008
      • Wrong Social Security #’s
      • Incomplete Employment Information
  • Other things we audit and catch on a regular basis is that the subordinating lender is incorrect from what was submitted (thus, we save many “rear-ends” by letting you know immediately so that you are spared from from loss of money and time.

Volume of subordination requests are high and it is very unrealistic to believe that they will be completed in a matter of a few days.     Many lenders have decent systems to underwrite subordinations and communication to track status, but others have ZERO follow up and customer service is non-existent—-trust us on that, we know.

Have a Blessed Holiday Season

“The real fire within the builders of America was faith – faith in a Provident God whose hand supoprted and guided them..”  – DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER

PNC Subordinations: need copy of Note?

Updated August 11th, 2011-

We have received multiple requests for Promissory Notes that may be required as an underwriting condition for a refinance transaction that involves PNC Bank.   While it is obviously best to get the Note from the borrower, if tradition holds true, most borrowers have “misplaced” it or don’t know which box it is in the cellar or attic.

Behold!  We have good news.   We have contacted our friends at PNC and you can receive your copies of Notes without too much trouble.  It involves two steps:

1)   Fax an authorization form over to PNC stating you have the borrower permission for them to release the document to you:   1-800-417-1527.

2)  Call back about an hour or so later.    Call 1-800-395-1983. Calling an hour or so later allows PNC’s system to update and show your authorization has been received.  The customer service staff at PNC can see your authorization and will then forward you a copy of the Note.

Have a great Fall season good friends  from every corner of the USA.

Nationwide Subordinations Staff.

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