Six tips on how to survive Bank of America Subordinations

 

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Surviving Bank of America

 

Six tips & expectations to survive the Bank of America subordination process:

1)  Prepare clients for a long underwriting period.  

It would not hurt to go to your local grocer or bathroom cabinet to have something at the ready to sooth your headache or a squeeze ball at the ready for your frustration.   Having some James Taylor on in the background might calm your spirits.

 

2)  Do not lock your loan for under 30 days.

3)  Pay Bank of America off

If there is enough equity, seriously consider paying off the HELOC or 2nd mortgage with Bank of America and opening another line with a different lender after closing to prevent having to deal with a Bank of America Subordinations.

4) Turn times published are unrealistic at best.

Their published 10 day underwriting turn time is just flat out not realistic.   In fact, it is outright false in almost every case where we processed a subordination through our escrow firm or here at Nationwide Subordinations.  For your convenience, on our homepage in the middle left section, we publish near live turn times every week for several lenders.  This should help you prepare for a realistic time frame.

Why is their published turn time unrealistic?  Here’s a brief sampling of our own experiences this Fall with pipeline files at the Bank of America Subordination department:

  • Bank of America Subordination dept. outright lost an inbound, signed for, Fed Ex package with a cashiers check (later accounted for nearly 12 days after they signed for it).  Several customer service representatives could not even provide a solution for whom to research the problem.
  • Bank of America Subordination department routinely takes DAYS for their processors to provide documentation of conditions that were provided verbally over the phone by customer service representatives that have literally no experience in lending other than reading internal notes to you (from their computer monitor) over the phone.
  • Bank of America customer service representatives have provided erroneous information causing a homeowner, processor and closing Attorney to question the progress of their subordination.
  • Bank of America subordination department asks for duplicate documents already provided but mysteriously is not part of the package initially provided.
  • We were asked by Bank of America customer service/subordination staff to fax the same document to three different bank associates over a two week period after which it took days for them to log it in their system.   Once they logged the fax in their system, they started their 10 days underwriting period three weeks after they have received the subordination request package!
  • Having a file in “escalation” status doe s not mean it will be underwritten the same or next day.
  • Not once has Bank of America followed our instructions for contacting us when approval has been made nor providing Fed Ex tracking of the outbound subordination.  Not once.

4)  Loan amount increase or lender change? 

Please say to yourself 10 times in a row, “I promise to notify my processor and Bank of America BEFORE the subordination is shipped.”   If you happen to need an amended Subordination after it has been shipped, prepare for more time and money to be spent.   It will not happen instantaneously.

5)  How’s your phone skills?

If you decide to process and track your own subordination be prepared to spend at least 20 minutes or more on the phone per day tracking your subordination status.    Dont’ wait for Bank of America to contact you—it will not happen.  It is not uncommon for our company to be on the line with Bank of America on a file for anywhere from 30 minutes to over an hour.  Sometimes we are disconnected after a long hold.   This is primarily the #1 reason people elect to use our service vs. going the DIY route.  They don’t have time or patience.

6) You will almost never be in contact with a Bank of America subordination staff or underwriter on a specific file unless they happen to contact you via e-mail.   And then, do not expect a response to any of your questions quickly.   In many cases, responses to a question will not occur until the next business day which can result in costly delays to your transaction.

Bonus: 7)  Refer to the blog posts by Bank of America customers and lending professionals regarding their experiences.  Note:  we could not publish the majority due to “salty” or “sailor” language.

Bonus: 8)  When all else fails, use social media and tweet for help:   @BofA_help.   At least you will be responded to with the nicest customer service reps that can do virtually nothing to help you other than providing you with some of the information you already have.

-Nationwide Subordination Staff

 


Wells Fargo Subordination Fees Increased $50.00

As of August 1st, 2011, Wells Fargo has increased their lender fee by $50.00   We wanted to get this news out to all our customers because there are scores of lending professionals, Title Insurance companies, Attorneys and Escrow Firms that are unaware of this change.

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

- Nationwide Subordination Staff

Subordinations: Turning a decline into approval

Getting your subordination request approved is our number one priority.    One of the most satisfying results of our service and work behind the scenes is helping our customers (the homeowner and lending or closing professional) work through a declined subordination and turning it into an approval.   Our success rate is nearly 50%, which is very respectable in light of struggling housing markets nationwide.

During the last week of June we worked together with  Excel Funding in California to get a declined file approved where the lender was PNC Bank.  It was successfully approved  and delivered on July 12th.

- Brenda Vandenbrink,  Nationwide Subordinations  Support Staff

Working together in a collaborative manner is the ingredient and secret “sauce” that our customers appreciate the most.   Our testimonials are the real deal and are never solicited. Ever.

PNC Bank Subordination Request: How to amend Subordinations

Most lenders allow the ability to make changes during the underwriting process that can include changing the lender and loan amounts.   But what about after the subordination is already completed and shipped to the closing agent, Title Company or lender?

For PNC Bank Subordination  Requests or former National City loans (now handled by PNC Bank) you can amend the subordination within 30 days of the initial request for subordination.   If changes to the lender or an increase in loan amount is needed and you need a re-draw or amended subordination to reflect those changes after the 30 day period, then a new request and additional underwriting fee will apply.

In summary, if you need an amended subordination from PNC the following points are helpful:

  • Increasing loan amount or lender change within 30 days of initial request?
    • Have not yet received subordination docs:  just notify us, all is fine.
    • Already received sub. docs:  must send original sub back to underwriting, overnight fees apply.
  • Increasing loan amount or lender change after 30 days of initial request?
    • Requires new request (new 1003, 1008, updated title if necessary, updated appraisal if necessary)
    • Full fees and overnight delivery fees apply, again —bummer!
  • Decreasing loan amount after already received sub. docs:  nothing needed.  Language in subordination says “not to exceed” x loan amount, thus you need to do nothing.  All is well.

Note:  this post is deemed to be accurate as of May 15th, 2011 but PNC can change their policy at any time.

For up to date inquiries or questions, please contact: support@nationwidesubordinations.com

Subordination Tip: obtaining copies of Notes the easy way

It is not unusual for underwriters to require a copy of the promissory Note in conjunction with the loan approval process.   If you have a Gem of a client who happens to be organized and keeps handy copies of their loan documents then you will be free sailing.    Otherwise, you’ll need to obtain a copy of the Note or Line of Credit Agreement from the subordinating lender.

Regardless of who the subordinating lender is for your transaction, most lenders require written authorization from the borrower for any third party to obtain a copy of the Note.

As a function of our work, we automatically provide our customers with an authorization form for the borrowers to sign authorizing the release of this or any other document required in connection with producing the Subordination.

-Nationwide Subordinations

Don’t put yourself in a pickle after you have received your Subordination by realizing that underwriting needs a copy of the Note and without it you cannot close your transaction.  Be pro-active and  ask your underwriter right away if they will need it.    Many times the requirement for a copy of the Note shows on the lender Commitment Letter so take the time to review it (we do as part of our pre-submittal audit).